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welcome back to new orleans. we are closing in on that time. we are almost 24 hours from the
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super bowl, which means it's prediction time. who do you got? >> the niners in double overtime. going to be a super bowl for the ages. rachel? >> i'm going to pick a harbaugh. how do you like that? >> oh, come on. come on! hey, it has been a pleasure. on your first show for cnn. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> for rachel nichols and jared greenberg, this is ernie johnson. cnn "newsroom" with don lemon starts right now. so long from new orleans. as we go on the air, it is day five of a tense standoff in a small alabama town where a military veteran is holding a 5-year-old boy hostage inside an underground bunker after kidnapping him from a school bus. a community vigil just wrapped up. live to midland city, alabama in a few minutes. hello, i'm don lemon.
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thanks for joining us. mean time, two other major stories we're following this hour. both are overseas. both have big impact here in the united states. we have new details on a deadly attack on an american embassy to tell you about. and in the same country, turkey, an american woman who has been missing for several days, has been found. but the news is not good. this is her, a photographer from new york city, 33 years old. was traveling alone in it istanbul and last heard from nearly two weeks ago. live now from cnn's international correspondent, nick robertson is there. you have breaking news. tell us about it. >> reporter: we do. according to officials, state news agency, they say her body has been found in one of the poorer areas of his tan buhl istanbul. her family are aware. nine suspects have been arrested in this case so far, but the police are also saying it's not straightforward. they believe the location she
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was found in was not where she was killed. and according to our sister network, cnn turk, they're being told by the police there are indications she suffered stab wounds as well, don. so there's still a lot to learn about this -- about her situation. >> tell me more about this woman, nick. what was she doing in istanbul, and where do police stand in this investigation right now? >> reporter: well, the police and the authorities generally in turkey have been incredible active, trying to track her down and find out her whereabouts since she went missing on the 21st in january. she arrived to spend time with friends, photographing sites around the city. she was due to go home on the 25th of january. had called her family to say i'm going to come home, surprise my sons, come home three days early. she was expected to return on the 22nd of january. and it was when she didn't get off that flight that her family, her husband, brother, parents
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became alarmed, because she had been talking only to her sister the day before saying how excited she was about coming back. she was ready to come back. when her husband and brother came to istanbul, they worked with the police, really there wasn't much they could do. but the police here and authorities were very energetic, putting a surprising a lot of turkish journalists, i have to say, by the effort they put in to try to locate her whereabouts. sadly, outcome has not been good, don. >> nick, you'll continue to follow that. let's move on to the u.s. embassy suicide bomb that killed a turkish guard yesterday. a group has claimed responsibility. who did it? >> reporter: well, it's the dhkpc, also known as the revolutionary people's liberation party front. marxist lengthenist group. their statement doesn't really say why they specifically attacked the united states embassy. in the past they have been known
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to attack a lot of turkish government sites. but what we're -- what we have learned now in that statement is they're accusing the united states of being responsible for killing people in afghanistan and iraq and libya. they say the united states is supporting the rebels in syria, they're against that. and also saying the united states is getting too close to turkey. this is a group that's been around since the 1970s. the last time they attacked u.s. officials was over -- was about two decades ago in 1991. so it is surprising everyone here right now, don. >> nick robertson, ankara, turkey. thank you for details on both stories. let's get you up to speed on other stories happening today. vice president joe biden is raising the possibility of direct talks with iran about its nuclear program. >> we would be prepared to meet bilaterally with the iranian leadership.
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we would not make it a secret we were doing that. we would let our partners know if that occasion presented itself. that offer stands. but it must be real. and tangible. and there has to be an agenda that they're prepared to speak to. >> biden made the comments at a security conference in munich today. indirect talks with iran had been unsuccessful and have stalled for months. soccer season is kicking off in egypt. but there is one important thing missing. [ speaking in spanish ] >> did you notice there, silence? no screaming fans. it's not that they don't want to be there. they're not allowed. matches are being played in secure military stadiums. after 74 people were killed in a riot after a game last year. if you believe what groundhogs have to say, well, you may be able to pack up your winter coats soon. >> so ye faithful, there is no shadow to see.
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an early spring! for you and me! >> yes, it's groundhog's day. and you heard it. the legendary punxsutawney phil did not see his shadow. that means spring is on its way. keep your fingers crossed. and fellow weather predictor, staten island chuck agrees, no shadow either at new york's staten island zoo. but there is at least one dissenting opinion. general boreguard lee did see his shadow in georgia, signalling six more weeks of winter. want to go to alabama now where new information is hard to come by on what exactly is going on inside an underground bunker outside midland city. police say a man they have identified as jim dykes killed a school bus driver tuesday, took a 5-year-old boy hostage and is holding him inside that bunker. it is a tense standoff that police are trying to figure out exactly what to do. hostage negotiators there, as well, don't know what to do. it is an odd situation that they have been trying to figure out.
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police are communicating with dykes by way of a vent legislation pipe, and they say they don't think the boy has been harmed. the community rallying around the boy's family. our george howe is just back from the community vigil. george, what did you learn? >> well, don, this was for the slain bus driver for charles poland. but it was also for this 5-year-old boy. everyone came together, praying for him. people obviously look at mr. poland as a hero. but together they chanted that this young boy that he's going to come out of the bunker. i spoke, don, with one woman who today talked to his mother. and she tells me that the family is obviously hanging on by a thread with all of this. but i did learn that they are getting constant updates. they're in constant communication with investigators as they continue to try to get this situation resolved on this property behind me, don. >> he's also allowed us to provide coloring books, medication, toys, and i want to
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thank him for taking care of our child. that's very important. >> reporter: and that's one thing, don. so we heard the sheriff there. we heard wally olson making a direct appeal, really, to jim dykes. and it raises the question. does mr. dykes have a television, does he have a radio, can he hear or see these messages? you do get the impression that they are trying to talk directly to him, don. >> and we talked about the vigil. what about the community? we see cars moving. is life going on as normal, or is it a tense situation there? >> reporter: you know, this really brings this community together. people obviously look at charles poland as a hero. this is a person who they say tried to protect the students on his bus. and lost his life doing so. and as each hour goes by, don, as each day goes by, it does become more tense here. everybody just wants to see this situation resolved. we're talking about a 5-year-old boy who since tuesday has been held against his will on this
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property behind me. in a bunker. we also learned, as you heard in that sound bite a minute ago, we know how mr. dykes is treating him. we know there are blankets, we know there is an electric heater. these are good things. also able to get the boy's medications, crayons, coloring books and toys we learned today. that's what we're getting from investigators. they're tight lipped about the operation but giving us glimmers of hope as they try to resolve this thing, don. >> certainly one of the oddest and most frustrating stories we have covered in recent history. thank you very much for that. new allegations of doping against alex rodriguez. was it part of a bigger doping ring in florida? next we go live to new york for the latest on a-rod. [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats --
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new york yankees' store alex rodriguez is denying reports he used banned drugs. a-rod has admitted to using steroids in the past but says he has been clean for a decade. the "miami new times" reported this week a florida clinic supplied rodriguez with performance-enhancing drugs. how is a-rod reacting to the report? >> the slugger says none of this is true. but it's clear this talk of p.e.d.s and a-rod are nga, not going away. reports that originated in the local miami newspaper say there is a diary from a man named
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anthony boesch who runs a clinic in miami. and that diary allegedly has hand-written notes implicating alex rodriguez and other athletes with the use of performance-enhancing drugs. other unidentified sources tell espn that boesch personally injected a rod with p.e.d.s at his waterfront mansion in miami last year. one got the boot when he had trouble finding a vein. cnn has been unable to independently examine the documents. now we went to the clinic earlier this week, but it's been shut down. through a lawyer, boesch tells cnn he did not treat nor is he associated with a-rod or other named athletes. a-rod's lawyers are also batting down the reports and call the documents illegitimate. they add this. alex is working diligently on his rehabilitation and is looking forward to getting back on the field as soon as possible. the third baseman is recovering from hip surgery. don, as you said, a-rod has repeatedly said he stopped
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taking performance-enhancing drugs a decade ago. >> i'm sure major league baseball has something to say, susan. >> you're right. major league baseball says it's been working with the dea on the problem in general, is aware of the miami situation and is investigating. the dea won't comment. legal analyst paul callan tells me there is plenty for authorities to look into. >> obviously, if he's not showing up to play baseball because of a suspension they would have certain rights under the contract then to pay him nothing or considerably less money. but it gets complicated because of the multiple agreements in question. >> susan, the yankees owe a-rod millions of dollars. could he lose that? >> well, major league baseball collective bargaining agreement may prevent that. if there's solid evidence, our analyst says a-rod's first concern would be a potential suspension from the league's commissioner. but that could still be a long way off, don, if it happens at all. >> all right. susan candiotti in new york.
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thank you. appreciate your reporting. she is the adoptive mother of one of the baltimore ravens' most important players. but you may know her from the movie "the blind side." she joins us straight ahead.
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[heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. new york's former mayor, ed koch, will be laid to rest on monday in the heart of the city he lived for. the always outspoken koch died from heart failure early yesterday. he led the city for 12 years, bringing it back from the
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financial brink. and just last month, koch talked with cnn's piers morgan about his gravestone. >> we've got a picture here. there it is. here lies ed koch. so you're in a unique position of writing your verbally espousing obituary. >> it's on a subway stop, too. >> really? >> yes. >> what was the thinking behind that? >> it is the only operating cemetery in manhattan. i wanted to be buried in manhattan. and the trinity church has a nondenominational cemetery, which is what this is. and it's the only functioning one. the one down at wall street, you have to be incinerated. i don't want to be incinerated. >> when you look at your own grave, something very, very few people ever do, mr. mayor. what do you think? >> well, i want to tell you. i'm secular, but i believe in god. i believe in the hereafter. i believe in reward and
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punishment. and i expect to be rewarded. god gave me a very good hand to play over my 88 years. i have no regrets. >> what have been your greatest achievements? >> being mayor of the city of new york. you know, here i am, 22 years out of office. i have walked down the street, people who were 8 years old when i was mayor know me. the motto that i had, "how am i doing?" everybody knows that. and i first uttered it in 1969. new york, the people have given me so much. on my gravestone, i say i fiercely love the people of the city of new york. >> current new york mayor michael bloomberg calls koch an irrepressible icon who will, quote, forever be part of the city he loved so much. ed koch was 88 years old.
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super bowl sunday is a special day for one mother, the mother of this man, michael oher. you might know him as the subject of the movie "the blind side" starring sandra bullock. we talked to his mother about the excitement in new orleans. the housing market is being called the comeback kid right now. christine romans shows us signs of a real recovery and explains why 2013 just might be the year of the house. >> reporter: this is what a recovering housing market looks like. an inspector looking things over before a final sale. and open house where 92 different brokers stop by. >> look at this. >> reporter: and home prices finally moving higher. in november, up 5.5%, the biggest gain in six years. and many experts agree, the recovery is just getting started. >> 2013 should be a very good year for the housing market.
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we expect the spring selling season to be robust. historically low mortgage rates with a 30-year fixed low. affordability. >> some sort of stool or something where you could sit there. >> reporter: those low mortgage rates are a boon for first time home buyers. >> i think it's just the right time to buy right now. >> reporter: and for refinanc s refinancers. this guy has refinanced twice in two years. >> if you can save even 100 to $150 a month, it seems worth it. >> reporter: and you know it's real when the house flippers are back. >> i just love taking an old, ugly house and bringing life back to it. >> reporter: as we approach the chinese new year, the year of the snake, sure, there's a long way to go. but deutsche bank calls 2013 the year of the house. christine romans, cnn, new york.
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in the middle of practice, lee ann? >> you can thank me later. >> this team is your family, michael. you have to protect them. tony is your quarterback. you protect his blind side. when you look at him, you think of me. >> yes, ma'am. >> sj, you're going to want to get this. >> wow. >> a lot of people know michael orrer as the subject of a popular book and movie "the blind side" but also helped lead the baltimore ravens to this year's super bowl. joining us now from new orleans -- i can say that -- lee ann tooley portrayed by sandra bullock in the movie. and i don't think sandra would mind me saying that, you're much better looking than sandra bullock in that movie. and her son, her other son, sj, is there with her, as well. so how are you doing, lee ann? how are you doing, sj?
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are you guys all right? >> can't complain. being here at the super bowl. >> i know, i'm sure you guys are full, stuffed with food and with drink. so mom, which is more exciting for you? which is a more exciting moment, the premier of the movie "the blind side" or super bowl sunday? >> super bowl sunday. not even a question. i mean, everybody has been asking me that. this is hands-down been way more exciting and fun, entertaining. and we've worked a lot harder to get here. >> yeah. the movie, it's hollywood, but this is what your son worked for, right? >> oh, yeah. i mean, he has worked for this for i can remember when he would sit in the living room and practice his signature, i'm going to go to the super bowl one day. and that day is coming tomorrow. so we're really excited about it. and, you know, he is determined, dedicated. everything that you can possibly imagine that he has had to do to get to this point, he has done it. so he's ready. you know, he's not nervous.
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i, on the other, am a complete basket case. >> well, i'm sure you're covering your news with eating some good food. sj, you get to see michael all of the time. you're in baltimore, so you get to see him all of the time. and so you know how he's preparing there. so what has he been doing in new orleans all week to prepare for the big game? >> you know, mike, he's a pretty laid back guy. he will go about his normal routine whether he's in baltimore or in miami. so i think he has watched about 30 movies, i bet he's played 4,000 games of temple run and brick breaker on his phone. but i think he'll be ready to come tomorrow. >> so is that -- is he superstitious? because you know new orleans is all about superstition, voodoo and all that. is he superstitious? is that what he does before every game? >> no, i'm superstitious. i haven't even washed my underwear since we played at denver. i'm the superstitious one. we're doing everything the same.
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i mean, everything. so -- and they think i'm all crazy. >> that's because she is. >> it worked in denver and it worked against the patriots and it's going to work tomorrow. >> it had nothing to do with the actual players. it was 100% lee ann's superstitious and the players tint do anything. >> mom, did you just realize you said you haven't washed your underwear, and s is j, your mom said that on national television? >> i'm not touching her. there is a space in between us, so -- >> i'm going let that one go. lee ann, i've got to ask you, on media at a day, michael was asked about "the blind side" and he told reporters, he's tired of talking about it. why is that? >> wouldn't you be? when there is a major motion picture made about you and the number-one rated netflix movie last year, number-one sports movie, surpassed rocky. when it's about you and you hear about it every single day, it gets a little old. because michael is focused on football. that's what he wants to do.
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he wants to play football. this is his business, this is what he has worked for, what he has -- you know, tried to achieve to get to this level. and he's done it. and he wants to talk about football. and i'll tell you, another name, nick saban, he mentioned to me, he said, i've won several national championships, and i walk in a room and somebody asks me about that stupid movie. you know, the movie is great. we love it. it allows us to go around and talk about the michael ohers of the world that need a forever family. you can love someone that doesn't look like you. and that's great. we are humbled that we have that platform. but it's time to talk about football. any reporter that asks michael about "the blind side" is an idiot. if i were him, i would say go away. and so, you know, let's talk about the ravens. we're playing tomorrow, and we want to beat -- we are going to beat the 49ers. that's what we want to talk about. >> all right. i'm going to ask an idiotic question then. did he have any issues about the
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movie and then we'll talk more about football. did he have any issues with the movie? >> well, the issue he had is with the analogy of him playing football. michael was never that bad of a football player. john lee hancock wanted to show the world how quickly michael closed this vast gap. and the best way was through the analogy of football. and he used that. and a little bit -- people took it and made their own stories, their own conclusions. and the only conclusion was that michael learned an amazing amount in a short amount of time. and john lee used football to demonstrate that. >> also, you're 16 years old. you don't want anyone looking back at you -- how were you at 16? >> because you look like a nerd in that movie. >> i don't want people looking back at me a year ago or six months or sometimes six weeks ago. what was i doing? something you just said moments ago, you said that you can love someone who doesn't look like you. a lot has been made about, you know, same-sex marriage and
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you've heard what one ravens player said and what san francisco 49er player said. what do you think about gay rights this year during the super bowl? a lot has been made of it. >> well, what part of talking football confused you? i said we're going to talk the football game. there is a time and place to talk about that. we're playing in the super bowl tomorrow. ask me what i think about ray lewis, ask me what i think about joe flacco? these guys have been out there worked their butts off to get here. we have overcome every adversity, everybody is a anyway anyway sayer, they picked us to lose. and we just keep on going on. >> i understand that. i understand that. but there was a movie that was made about you. and you said that, you know, it was about loving someone who doesn't look like you. and the question is very simple, with all due respect. what do you think? it's been a big deal this particular super bowl. >> well, you know, i think that there's a lot of amazing kids
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like michael that they don't care that they have two moms or two dads. they want to wake up in the morning and know that there is someone that loves them and that cares about them. and we get hung up on a lot of things that are not important. the important thing is to get the 400,000 and change kids in foster care in a forever family. and the important thing is to get a kid that is 17 and that we care for on a monday, and he turns 18 on monday night and on tuesday we throw him to the curb and think that he can fend for himself. that's not right. our government has problems, it's a flawed system. and we need to take care of it. it doesn't matter if it's two dads that want to raise a child or two mothers. let's just raise the kids. let's get kids off the street. let's have families stop sleeping in cars. that's what we need to do. and unfortunately, we address the things that are not important. and that's just, you know -- i've seen behind the curtain. and i know what can happen when
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you invest time in a child. and the kids don't care about who is investing the time. they just want someone to care about them. >> lee ann, that is a great message. thank you so much for joining us and thank you for your candor. best of luck to both of you, lee ann and sj. thanks again. it is coming up now on half past the hour. want to get you caught up on the headlines on cnn. first up, breaking news on cnn. we can now confirm an american woman missing for nearly two weeks in turkey has been found and sadly she is dead. the body of sarai sierra was found in istanbul and it appears she was stabbed to death. the 33-year-old new yorker was on vacation alone in turkey. in mali, crowds cheered when france's president arrived. france's francois hollande thanked troops. this week's troops freed the city of timbuktu.
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they gave a camel to show thanks. france sent troops to its former colony at mali's request. alabama's dale county sheriff says the man holding a 5-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker is offering assurances he is taking care of the child. jim dykes is communicating with police by way of a ventilation pipe. dykes shot and killed a school bus driver tuesday afternoon before taking the boy hostage. it appears this photo is meant to shoot down skepticism. president barack obama skeet shooting in august. the president had asked if he had had ever fired a gun when he recently released his plan for tougher gun control laws and measures. he replied that he went scoot sheeting all of the time at camp david, prompting skepticism by some republicans. heads up, guys. you may think that helping your lady around the house could pay off for you if you know what i mean. but careful. it could leave you, shall we say, alone. and dr. sanjay gupta takes
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us behind a preview of the newest medical drama that looks like it will be a big hit.
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i'm sure wives and girlfriends love, love, love it when their man does some work around the house. but guys, here's a warning for you. it matters what you do around the house. if you do dishes, if you vacuum, if you do some light dusting, it may mean less loving from the lady. so there's your warning.
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jeff gardere is here, he's a clinical psychologist. so, wait a minute, jeff. guys who help out around the house get essentially punished in the bedroom? >> yeah. it turns out a new study by the center for advanced studies out of madrid using some data from a survey done back in 1999 are saying that gender-specific relationships where the guys are doing more of the sort of men work, such as paying bills, yard work, maybe changing the oil, these guys are getting more intimacy from their wives than the guys who are doing things as you pointed out, such as vacuuming, doing the laundry, perhaps even doing the cooking. >> so why is it that doing certain chores around the house, why would it affect a couple's sex life? is it because, i don't know, if you go out and mow the lawn and your lady comes home and you're doing the lawn with your shirt off, that's sexier than doing
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the laundry? >> well, perhaps. maybe it's the testosterone that may be setting the ladies off a little bit. i figured this one out, don. i think what's going on, the ladies are saying, you know what, we can cover the cooking, the cleaning, the laundry. we do that better than you guys, because you guys are inept at doing it anyway. so what we would like for you to do is the heavy lifting. we would like for you to pay the bills. and so we will reinforce your behavior, get you to do the stuff that we don't really feel like doing by exchanging the intimacy. so it's a perfect conditioning or operant conditioning by giving positive reinforcement for doing the things they want them to do. >> but, jeff, this is 2013. not 1950. i thought we were supposed to bust out of those gender assignment -- out of those roles and society evolves? >> we really should. i think the problem with this study, and it seems to be a meta analysis. what they did, it's a brand-new
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study, but they used data from 19 -- i think it was '96. almost, you know, many, many years old, this data. so i think because of that, the results are not as true as we want them to see. but what it does speak to, don, maybe we really are into the gender-specific traditional roles. we seem to talk a good game, but when it comes to following it up, i think sometimes even though men and women are equal, we want men to do men things and women to do women things. i think we're stuck there, still. >> all right. jeff gardere, appreciate it. >> all right. a driver pulls into the wrong driveway before he can pull out, he is shot and killed. wait until you hear the homeowner's defense. [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse. britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate,
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inspiring story that will warm your heart. 14-year-old cassandra lynn wanted to help the environment and keep the people in her community warm this winter. she and some friends found a great way to do both. ♪ >> when i was young, i heard about global warming and i knew there was huge consequences for this huge problem. i got together with my friends, and we found out that you could actually turn waste cooking oil into batteries. because many families in my own town couldn't afford to heat their homes, i thought, what if we could recycle wasted cooking oil to heat the homes of these local families? >> we made a difference. so can you. ♪ >> we were just worried about keeping our kids warm, and having heat, and hot water. it was a major relief. >> i was trying to talk about
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biodiesel, and just could not get anywhere with it. so she came along and did it, to get restaurants to recycle their grease. >> our bill will promote the use of alternative energy. >> the fact that it was coming from kids made it hit home harder. the child shall lead them sort of thing. ♪ >> she set the example for the town, and it's great that westerly has a person we can be proud of and tell the rest of the country, look what we're doing. >> if everyone just gave something back and took a little time out of their day to do something for others, the world would be a better place. >> for years, police tried to link john and patsy ramsey to the death of their daughter, jonbenet. now we know the grand jury wanted to indict them. we'll ask our legal expert why that never happened.
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[heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org.
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a murderer is back behind
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bars after he just walked of jail in chicago. steven robins was on the run for three days before he was captured last night. police found him about 60 miles away from the jail. robins was serving a 60-year murder sentence in an indiana prison when he was transferred to chicago to face a drug charge. well, the drug charge was dropped, and robins was supposed to return to indiana to serve the rest of his murder sentence. but instead he was simply just let go. >> i think you had a grand jury that was likely confused. and perhaps could have had some of that confusion cleared up if john and patsy ramsey had been allowed to testify before the grand jury. they offered repeatedly to do so. but they were never allowed the opportunity. >> obviously speaking about the jonbenet case. you heard it right that jonbenet ramsey murder case is back in the news. police still don't know who killed the child beauty queen. but we do know this. that the grand jury wanted to indict jonbenet's parents back in 1999. so why weren't they ever
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indicted? so let's talk law and justice now with holly hughes, here, a criminal defense attorney. isn't it standard practice to go ahead and indict if the grand jury returns with what's called a true bill? >> yes. in 99% of the cases. but bear in mind that the difference in proof, okay, there's different standards here. when a grand jury returns an indictment, they say oh, there's probable cause to believe a crime occurred. this case was so high-profile, and believe that a crime occurred. this case was so high pressure and there was so much pressure that what alex hunter, the district attorney at the time, had to look at it and say can i prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these people were guilty? and after a year and a half of looking at the evidence, they wanted to return a child abuse which resulted in death indictment, because what one of the jurors said was something horrible happened in the house that night. we don't know what. they were the only ones there. so alex hunter had a tough
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decision given all the pressure. i think he made the right one. >> this case just sat and sat in the news. it was covered 24 hours. some shows were created because of that. you're missing the -- you mentioned the district attorney, alex hunter, said the evidence was not there. explain the difference. >> standard of proof, when you want to talk about do you return a true bill? which is really an indictment, saying these are the official charges right? you have to believe something happened. is it probable cause, or when we get to a petit jury, the case where they sit in the box, that we all know about. that standard of proof is much higher, beyond a reasonable doubt, not hey, do you think they did something? 59-49%? is it can you erase every piece of reasonable doubt that these
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people did a crime? and what the district attorney said at the time was no, i can't. remember this, this was the murder of a child, the little girl. you only get one bite at the apple. if he had indicted and a petit jury said we don't believe there is enough evidence here, they are acquitted, they can never go after it again. if you google it, a little beauty queen murder will come up. >> yes, this is like the casey anthony case -- >> of our generation, little ways back. >> and the parents could never seem to escape it even though they were never convicted. let's talk about this case outside of atlanta. a man shoots and kills a driver who had pulled up to his house by mistake. the shooter, 69-year-old philip sailor said he was afraid it was a home invasion. the people were looking to go, but they went to the wrong
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house. sailor shot and killed the driver, so holly, is it reasonable to say that the sailors -- i don't know that he was defending himself. >> they're going to have a difficult road, number one, these people had hardly opened the door of the vehicle, this is somebody pulling into the driveway. if you're out of your house, or in your house, you look and see a -- an unfamiliar car, lock the door. this elderly gentleman went out there, waving a gun into the air, firing it and asked these young people who never even opened the door, are backing away. and there is some evidence to suggest because the tire marks show he was turning the wheel. he was exiting that driveway. he just shoots him in the head. >> can you imagine? >> and the folks in the car, his friends say he simply rolled down the window to say we're
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sorry, we're sorry, we're at the wrong house. and he gets shot in the head, a 22-year-old man, this was wrong, you were in your castle, stay there, lock the doors. if they get out of the car and hold a weapon that is a whole other legal matter. but this, this is cold-blooded murder. >> all right, thank you, holly hughes, appreciate it. if you're a fan, we have a show for you, the back stage preview of a medical drama that looks like it may be a big hit. and it has a special connection to those of us here at cnn. ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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ever wonder what happens when something at a hospital goes wrong? a lot of people may think a mistake happens and the story ends there. but tnt's new drama on monday mornings pulls back the curtain and holds the doctors responsibility. the show is based on a book by cnn's very own sanjay gupta, who gives us a tour of the monday morning set. >> welcome to chelsea general. this is the emergency room, and it is a trauma center. >> get out of my way. >> clear. >> place like this can get multiple traumas at once. this is the sort of place where they all end up, multiple trauma days, lots of action in this area. but you remember this, when dr. tyler wilson comes in with the entire team at chelsea general to make it happen.
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that is what this hospital is all about. >> so here at chelsea general, it is a single level set as you might imagine. but there are ways that we can make it multiple levels, for example, elevator here that goes straight through. you go through the elevator, and you're on a different floor. >> are these real? >> they could be, anything could be real. we go to my favorite place at chelsea general. the operating room. this is an operating room that you're about to see where we can actually perform surgery. we wanted the entire room to be real. so nothing in here is out of place. nothing doesn't belong. this is what a real operating room looks like. this is a microscope that we used to perform surgery, the surgeons will be able to move this microscope

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